I've already sown some varieties for next year! I couldn't wait and, since I started a bit too late this year, I decided to start already now.  I'll be growing them under fluorescent lights until spring "unfreezes" the sun! :-)

These are the varieties I chose to start with:

PI 441551
Early Jalapeños
Starfish
Numex Suave Orange
Pimenta-de-bode

I'm also planning to plant these (waiting for seeds to arrive from Brazil):

Coração-de-galinha
Murupi vermelha

I'll also try to revive my ají amarillo (that I'm trying to overwinter), keep the ají cachucha and chocolate habanero that are under lights and the ají rojo and paper lantern that are "resting" indoors with very little light.  So, next year I hope to have 12 varieties, which is a record for me! I just hope I can find enough spaceto fit them all in my balcony ;-)

Has anyone else already started planning/growing next year's varieties?

Yeah, sure, new seedlings are growing their first or second real leaves by now. And the ones started as cuttings are bigger, maybe 10cm high and trying to start flowering (and I'm trying to prevent them). Early bird gets the bird's eye pepper or how was that?

Atm my season 2006 consists of:

Aji Andean
Bolivian Rainbow
Canario
Kaleidoskop
Habanero Cappucino
Habanero Red Uganda
Malawi Bird's Eye
NuMex Suave Orange
Lemon Drop
Limo
Long Pequin
Red Datil
Red Fatalii
Starfish
Short Yellow Tabasco
CAP 272
CAP 907
CO 4896
CO 4897
PI 441551

Those are the ones already germinated and 5-15cm tall.
I'll be giving some of these out to my friends so I'll prolly add some more later on.

I've started the next season also. About half of the varieties I'll grow are germinated already. I was planning to do most of the germination process before Christmas time as I'm going to have a holiday after the turn of the new year.

It's kind of funny to realize that chile-pepper growing is actually an all year hobby. The latest plants have finally matured their last pods, and just after that you are sowing the new ones :)

It's not necessary to start a new chili year quite this early, but it doesn't hurt, either! :) Great varieties I do see you have, so let's go on! It'll be a wonderful chili year 2006, on balconies, indoors, in greenhouses, outdoors... And, perhaps, our own Finnish northern wild chili project, "Aji Perkele" might just take out... ;)

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "thietavu"It's not necessary to start a new chili year quite this early, but it doesn't hurt, either!

Yeah, it certainly won't heart to have a bit more mature plants when spring starts next year! This year I had some problems germinating, so I actually just started for real around april, which was definitely too late (at least for my choco-habas)! And also, now that I have a glazed balcony, I'll be able to make use of the early spring sun, even when it is still rather cold outside. :-)

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "thietavu"And, perhaps, our own Finnish northern wild chili project, "Aji Perkele" might just take out...

That's a very interesting project! Please keep posting information on its progress in English too ;-)
And when I come back from Brazil after my trip in May, I'll certainly have some more wild species from there to add to the "stew".  At least that's my primary goal in Brazil next year (as opposed to the usual lie-in-the-beach-and-drink-beer objective) :lol:

What I've learned is that it's always a good thing to start very early if you have enough space to grow seedlings indoors, especially when it comes to outdoor & greenhouse growing.
Sun at the springtime is much more effective than autumn sun.
If summer will be shitty and you start too late, it may very easily ruin the whole season.
But if the plants use as much sun at springtime as possible, the chances are so much better even the summer will be shitty!

Especially with rocotos it's good to start "too" early if you want to have proper yields at the first year.
Some slower baccatums are also good to germinate a bit earlier.

Suprisingly, usually chinenses seem to mature in time in the greenhouse even I'm germinating them bit later than pubescenses and baccatums.

In most cases annuums can be started a bit later.
I've germinated 90 varieties so far (30 still germinating and at least 60-90 still left to be germinated) and there's no single annuum yet. :)
Still I think I have to germinate Jalapeño as it was very good as chipotle powder!

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "Fatalii"Sun at the springtime is much more effective than autumn sun.

Yes, that's true.

I can come up with a little bit of very simplistic science on why this is true.  (Mainly because I'm too bored to do any real work right now! heheheh)

<waste_of_time_alert!>
The summer solstice (longest day in the year) is somewhere around the 20th of June.  Spring starts about 3 months before that (~20th of March) and Summer ends about 3 months after (~20th of September).  The beginning of Spring and end of Summer are marked by the Equinox (when day and night have the same length).  Meaning that, daytime-wise, the end of Summer is the same as the beginning of Spring.
Thus, we can say that total amount of daytime during Summer is the same as the total amount of daytime during Spring.  And consequently, the total amount of daytime during Fall is the same as during Winter.
We can also go a bit further and say that the length of the day 7 days after the beginning of fall is the same as the length of the day 7 days before the end of winter.  So, 27th of September is just as long as 13th of March.
The reason why Fall is warmer than Winter and Summer is warmer than Spring is that it is not only the length of the day that affects the temperature.  It is mostly the sea and air humidity temperatures.  Summer is warmer than Spring, because when Summer starts, the long Spring days have already heated the air and sea (hopefully!)
For most plants, the amount of light is more important than the temperature (especially if you have a heated greenhouse like some of you mega-lucky guys!), so Spring is much more efficient than Fall.

Of course, all the dates above are just examples and are very rough, because the calendar year doesn't match the solar year very well (and that's why we have leap years, leap seconds etc.)
</waste_of_time_alert!>

Okay, sorry for this very long extremely obvious post, but I was just trying to find a way to pass my last few hours at work before the holidays and this seemed to be the perfect choice! heheheheheh :lol:

Yes exactly, thats why I think it's much better to stretch the season from beginning, not from the end of the season.

And it's not just sunlight, but it tends to be way too humid in the autumn as well. All kind of fungi and mildew grow, and also diseases and pests seem to multiply in the autumn, whilst it's mostly sunny and dry in the spring. That's why I want to start early, and use my precious heating kilowatts in the springtime rather than in autumn.

Words of wisdom. :)
Aren't the sunrays more stronger at the springtime too?
At least the plants seem to like it much more, like morning sun instead of the evening sun.
Or maby it's the changes in the spectrum.

Oh, I was thinking about sunlight but wrote "temperature" instead. Corrected now. BTW. I have also germinated the annuums already (or at least some of them), in intension of getting very early crop of popper peppers.

I don't know if I'll grow any other annuums than jalapeno... perhaps some ornamentals for the garden. :)

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "Fatalii"Aren't the sunrays more stronger at the springtime too?
At least the plants seem to like it much more, like morning sun instead of the evening sun.
Or maby it's the changes in the spectrum.

Yes, the spectrum and the strength of the sun rays work in the same way as the daylight time.  The inclination of the sun is what causes changes in the spectrum and strength, mainly because the amount of atmosphere the rays have to cross vary depending on the angle.  So, the same rule applies to spectrum and strength: beginning of spring = end of summer; beginning of fall = end of winter. :-) And I think the fact that plants like the morning sun more than the evening sun is probably because in the morning they're just coming from a period of rest and in the evening they're already "tired", because the spectrum and strength should be equal.  But this is pure speculation.

Also, I don't know in Finland, but my "statistics" from the 6 years I spent in Denmark, show that springtime is usually sunnier (ie. less clouds) than summer itself!

Actually, in Finland it's almost the same, according to FMI: Duration of sunshine hours (http://www.fmi.fi/weather/climate_6.html#10)

In that table you can see that in May, Helsinki has an average of 273 hours of sunshine, and in June and July 275 and 274 respectively.  So the amount of sunshine is almost the same in the middle of the spring as it is in the middle of the summer, even though the days are much longer on summer :-)

I am very interested in hearing how/what/when others in northern climates are growing.

I grow on an organic farm as well as at my house in a small city on Lake Ontario. Last year I had ~400 containers of peppers and tomatoes at home. This season I am focusing on seasoning peppers as well as Canadian and European peppers of historical or culinary significance.

I started seeds Jan 1 (on the new moon :>), the first round with the long seasoners:

Baccatum
Aji Amarillo
Aji Cristal
Aji Rojo
Bishop's Crown
Cambuci
Criolla Sella
Dong Xuan Market
Lemon Drop
Rain Forest
Starfish

Chinense
Aji Cachucha
Aji Dulce
Aji Dulce #2
Amazon Chile Roma
Atarado
Datil Sweet
St Martin's Seasoning
Trinidad Perfume

Frutescens
Bradley's Bahamian
Zimbabwe Bird (properly an annuum subspecies?)

Pubescens
Rocoto, Red
Rocoto, Yellow
PI 355812
PI 387838

The rest of the chinense and longer season annuum will be planted by the end of month. Aiming for 108 varieties of minimum 4 plants each.

Jennifer

Sorry. Thought I was logged in. This is me.

Jennifer

Jennifer

Here is picture of flowers of my Zimbabwe Bird. What do you think?

(http://www.pbase.com/chiles400/image/24179425.jpg)

and the plant

(http://www.pbase.com/chiles400/image/24244364.jpg)

Hi, John.

Well, not frutescens, if mine turn out the same as yours. I would go with C. annuum var. aviculare. But I am still green around the gills when it comes to species identification. To add to the confusion, my seed source originally had the common name as Zimbabwe Birdseye, then changed it to plain Zimbabwe Bird. Still, a few supposedly reputable references do say frutescens, which is what led me to question the species in the first place. What say you on this? Long season, yes?

Will go with annuum for the Quintisho too, especially since you were my seed source.  :lol: Thanks both for the seeds and replying at GW.

My goal this year is to photodoc following your lead. If I can do half as well, I will be extremely pleased.

Jennifer, dealing with more rain and + temps. than snow and cold this month.

Jeepers, you'll be thinking that I'm a blond...

Jennifer, now logged in

Jennifer

Even though my source (Redwood Seeds) identifies as C. frutescens, I agree that it looks more like an annuum. Seeds were planted 3/22 with the plant picture taken 9/8 so not especially long season for me.

Thanks, John. I hope that my plants will look as nice as yours does. Would you happen to remember the diameter of that pot?

Now on to the correct species identification for Purira.... :?

Jennifer

jennifer

Believe that is a 10" pot. What are the candidates for Purira?--my flowers looked like C. annuum.

John, I would have said annuum for Purira, but quite a few sources, reliable and otherwise, list it as frutescens.  One person says chinense, but I think that's an oversight-type mistake. And I don't think that it's another case of a reused common name, but I need to do a search to compare flower/plant/fruit pictures in order to confirm this.

Jennifer

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "Femmefatalii"John, I would have said annuum for Purira, but quite a few sources, reliable and otherwise, list it as frutescens.  One person says chinense, but I think that's an oversight-type mistake. And I don't think that it's another case of a reused common name, but I need to do a search to compare flower/plant/fruit pictures in order to confirm this.

Jennifer

There might always be several plants under the name "Purira", but the one I grew years ago was definitely an annuum, no doubts about that. Then again, it's one of the easier and more interesting annuums to grow, and one of those chilis about *everyone* truly fears - after the first bite... In that sense, it's just like Goat's Weed from Venezuela, although those annuums are quite different. Both do prove that annuums can be infernal when it comes to heat... ;)

Purira flower

(http://www.pbase.com/chiles400/image/46057961.jpg)



And plant.  

(http://www.pbase.com/chiles400/image/48985903.jpg)

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "Anonymous"
Will go with annuum for the Quintisho too, especially since you were my seed source.

Well, my Quintisho is definately a baccatum, no doubt about that. Easy to see from growing habit and spots on corolla.

But quite an impressive goal you have, I suppose you are more professional grower?

Well, all signs here seem to point to Purira being an annuum. Time will tell once flowers and fruits emerge from my planting out this summer. I wonder why the penchant for classifying something as frutescens?

Re Quintisho. This is what I posted on another forum:

Mats and Graeme say nada on their sites. ChilePlants and Reimers say annuum. Soilmates and Jukka say baccatum. Beth says chinense, but her pics don't look like the others (longer, not cherry-like though her description says 'cherry'). No flower photos. Wish JF and AB could put species labels on their pics, but that's alot to ask.

Is this another generic name applied to more than one cultivar? Or is there a mistake somewhere...?

John replied that his source (and therefore indirectly mine as well) was Terra Time and Tide which did not indicate species. He remembered his grow-out being annuum.

I am not a professional grower. In my spare time, I do direct a small, not-for-profit seed organization that does research of various kinds, dehybridizes corporate seed, repatriates Canadian-bred germplasm amongst other things. Seed politics.

Jennifer

PS. John, I put some seed from China in the mail today. My brother (still based in Beijing) is on the hunt for interesting stuff in the more remote areas of China, Vietnam and Korea as he does his ultramarathons.  Plus, my parents head to Belize, Costa Rica and Panama next week. Don't know if they will be able to top the St Martin's Hab and Seasoning peppers they brought back last time. Will let you, Chance, and anyone else who is interested know what they send back.

Well, I said mine wasn't a baccatum ( have yet to see a baccatum Quintisho flower pic) but it may have been chinense. Mickey got seeds from me and his flower looks like a chinense to me

http://www.pbase.com/mickey_baker/image/47203835

Talked with Beth Boyd and she sent me a picture and says she still thinks is a chinense.

Photo by Beth Boyd
(http://www.pbase.com/chiles400/image/54534259.jpg)

Thanks for following up, John. I apologize for misquoting you. Great picture, better than the one on her site.

FYI, the C2CPC list has Quintisho down as baccatum.

Think I'll just plant the doggone seeds after all and be done with it.

Jennifer

Jennifer

Please let us know what the species of your plant is--probably only way to know for sure at this point. The old problem of pepper naming rears it's ugly head again. There is, apparently another pepper out there named  ( or misnamed) quintisho). I had a brown chinense, that for several years I had called Aji Variedad Boliviana, from a woman in Argentina. Hadn't grown for several years and recently got the original seeds out of my files only to find C. pubecens seeds--oops. Yhanks in advance for the Chinese seds.

John,

MSN, thanks! Yes, it looks more and more like there may be two varieties called Quintisho in circulation. I may try to grow both out for a side-by-side. Mine should be the same as yours and Mick's. I'll also find some time to go through Chance's gallery today. Maybe he's got flower pics. Haven't figured out how best to search Jukka's site.

Jennifer

Rechecked Beth's catalogue, same pic as above.

ChilePlants isn't listing Quintisho this year.

Same pic of Quintisho at Graeme's site as Terra Time and Tide.
http://members.aol.com/ltmdterra/TTTnewpe.html

It's Chance's fruit pic that's different (thump upside the head). Is that elongated fruit or am I really losing it....

Chance's only pic online:
http://www.linuxis.net/gallery/album78/quintisho_fruit

Jennifer, apologizing to Luca for the hijack :oops:

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "Femmefatalii"Jennifer, apologizing to Luca for the hijack :oops:

Hehehe! No problem, this is quite an interesting discussion and I'm following it in details ;)

Thanks for being so gracious, Luca!!!

I'm just really, really picky about correct identification, spelling and complete documentation. This is partially due to my background in library research and preservation, but also because of my personality. John is a kindred spirit on this subject, though a MUCH, MUCH nicer one than me.

Jennifer, wishing you a very productive growing season

Took a proper look at Jukka's most excellent site. Was able to find this:

http://juuri.org/fatalii/?u=g&c=search&word=quintisho

Jennifer

.
Well, Juka's plant certainly looks different from mine and the others
http://www.pbase.com/chiles400/image/24170296

John, what do you think about Allen's Q versus Jukka's Q?

Jennifer

Jennifer

Can't tell for sure but Allen's plant looks more like Juka's but his pods are elongated.

Here's my Quintisho, sorry for the bad quality photos. I don't seem to have any photos of flowers, you just have to believe me - they are spotted. I don't know from whom I got the seeds, but it's very probable that this is closely related to the Jukka's plant  :)  (This assumption because at least half of the chile growers in Finland have traded with him directly or indirectly...)

I'll just put links in here, because the photos are too big to fit the forum and I don't make them smaller to save the few details there are.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/jartsap/IMG_2500.JPG

http://koti.mbnet.fi/jartsap/IMG_2933.JPG

Jartsap
Not doubting you or your observation just trying to sort it out. It looks to me as if there are different peppers with the same name. Your and Juka's plants do look like baccatums and also your pods are more variable. Mine tended to be pretty uniform

(http://www.pbase.com/chiles400/image/24171342.jpg)

Thanks for posting those pictures, JartsaP!!!

It would be interesting to trace sources back from Beth, Allen and Jukka. Perhaps someone unwittingly sent out a cross early on. If growers have grown out only 1 plant in a season, then that cross may not have been detected right away. Are we possibly seeing separate filial lines now?

Jennifer

Beth and Mickey got theirs from me. I haven't traded with juka

John, just to clarify: Beth, Mickey and I all received our seeds from you; the trail from you leads back to Terra Time and Tide. So far all grow-outs are consistent in flower and fruit form, enough to identify this Quintisho as chinense. The question then is where Jukka and Allen got their apparently baccatum Quintisho seeds.

And apologies if you thought I was implying that any of the 3 of you sent out crossed seeds. I was thinking further back, possibly USDA or an original source/collection point in Bolivia.

Jennifer

Hey, Jennifer

I believe you have it and there does appear to be another pepper called Quintisho. Don't even get me started on my name rant. It's nice that all of you kept track of sources. If everyone did that it would be a lot easier to sort this stuff out.

John, remember that I primarily inhabit the tomato world where there are 20+ tomato varieties named Polish and no species differentiation...

Jennifer the anal retentive documentarian

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "JohnF"Well, I said mine wasn't a baccatum ( have yet to see a baccatum Quintisho flower pic) but it may have been chinense. Mickey got seeds from me and his flower looks like a chinense to me

http://www.pbase.com/mickey_baker/image/47203835

Quintisho I grew was a baccatum, and with its smallish berries very likely pretty close to wild forms of baccatum (or c.praetermissum).

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "JohnF"Jennifer

Can't tell for sure but Allen's plant looks more like Juka's but his pods are elongated.

If you browse through Inferno's "Baccatum" section (currently still only in Finnish, my apologies!), at the end you'll see a photo of a "baccatum" Quintisho. Distinctive green-spotted flowers, although not visible in the photo. Not a very remarkable variety, I seem to remember, when it comes to taste and heat.

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "JohnF"Hey, Jennifer

I believe you have it and there does appear to be another pepper called Quintisho. Don't even get me started on my name rant. It's nice that all of you kept track of sources. If everyone did that it would be a lot easier to sort this stuff out.

I think the baccatum version I've grown was from Reimer Seeds (not 100% sure). However, what you have grown, is a completely different plant, judging from the photos. It looks fascinating, though - what's the heat level? It doesn't really look like a chinense to me (the leaves), although there are chinenses with annuum/frutescens-like leaves...

Link to the picture please--I'm stupid today and can't find it.

Here's the link to Inferno's baccatum page:
http://www.saunalahti.fi/~thietavu/Chili/L_baccatum.htm

Thanks, Luca

That looks like a completely different pepper both shape and color-wise.

Hmmm

Reimers' Quintisho
http://www.reimerseeds.com/quintisho-hot-pepper-bolivia.aspx

Hmmm x2 Did they send you crossed or wrong seeds? How many plants did you grow and did following generations produced identical the fruit form from saved seeds? A big puzzle.

Luca, thanks for the reminder of Thietavu's site. It's terrific. I tried using an online Finnish to English translator when I first found it...it was unintelligible. Too bad. For the photos it is worth visiting though!!

What has me really excited is the photo of the baccatum from Bulgaria. Is this the one that's called Bulgarian Apple?

Thanks in advance for any info on Bulgarian peppers.

Jennifer

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "Anonymous"Luca, thanks for the reminder of Thietavu's site. It's terrific. I tried using an online Finnish to English translator when I first found it...it was unintelligible. Too bad. For the photos it is worth visiting though!!

Well, the official link is http://www.infernochili.tk :-) and it's written above all inferno's forum pages, so it's easy to remember.

I don't know anything about Bulgarian chiles, but someone offered me bulgarian cherry, apple, cat, and sweet wax seeds.  Does anyone know anything about these? Are they worth trying?

I know that Hungarian Hot Wax is actually quite nice. Kind of a sweet burn. Very good for an Annuum variety! Big yields also. But about Bulgarians I don't have any knolidge of!

Luca, I didn't word that last post very well, did I?  :?  I am not as blond as I may sound.  :wink:

More Bulgarian peppers???? I am SOOOO very excited. Bulgarian Carrot (C. annuum) is quite good. I've heard Bulgarian Apple (C. baccatum) is great. There are 2 baccatum from Bulgaria in the USDA (one of them discussed above), but they seem to be unnamed. And now a cherry and more???? Please do ask about them, if you would!!!

Many thanks, Luca!

Jennifer

I'll ask more info about the other bulgarian chiles.  I'll also ask for some seeds too.  If any of them sound interesting enough, I'll try it this year as well, then I can give you more info ;-)

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/6328/bulgaria5co.jpg

I got few different pods from Hungary last summer. One sort of them (picture in that link above) looked like Bulgarian Apple, but it tasted just like ordinary C. annuum with some typical sweet pepper aroma and mild heat. They weren't fully matured so I didn't try to germinate them.

http://javu.kapsi.fi/inferno/viewtopic.php?t=144&highlight=bulgarian

Luca, my hero. What can I offer you as a bribe....errrr...incentive?  :D

Bassino, like you I've tried quite a few Hungarian peppers. Some quite good, some only ordinary at best. All annuum and all very cultivated varieties, which is not surprising really. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and the photo.

Jennifer

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "Anonymous"Reimers' Quintisho
http://www.reimerseeds.com/quintisho-hot-pepper-bolivia.aspx

Luca, thanks for the reminder of Thietavu's site. It's terrific. I tried using an online Finnish to English translator when I first found it...it was unintelligible. Too bad. For the photos it is worth visiting though!!

What has me really excited is the photo of the baccatum from Bulgaria. Is this the one that's called Bulgarian Apple?

Thanks in advance for any info on Bulgarian peppers.

Jennifer

Thanks, Jennifer! :) Glad to see that our humble site is of interest to so many people! If there's demand, I might translate more of Inferno's content, at least the most important information. The wild capsicums -section "Villichilit" is already in both Finnish and English, although the translation is still pretty incomplete.

Here's what it says about that Bulgarian variety:

"Small, not very early plant. The fruit is roundish, a bit like a Habanero, green when raw, orange when ripe. Relatively hot with sharp, pungent aroma and a hint of sweetness."

It might be the pepper you mention, but at least USDA didn't have any local name for it. There's, btw, something chinense-like in that variety, both in taste and in its appearance...

Quick revisit to Quintisho:

Check out the main Inferno site under Lajit. There, larger than life, is a picture of the flower of the baccatum version.

More later...

Jennifer

Just wanted to post an update on Quintisho.

John and I consulted with Allen Boatman who has done grow-outs of the baccutum Quintisho on this side of the ocean. He says that his Quintisho was supposed to be an annuum (now thought to be chinense) but grew out as a cross, that is, the baccutum. So the baccutum is actually Not Quintisho or Quintisho Cross. Slight differences in the baccutum fruit shape are likely a result of segregation down the filial lines.

Jennifer

Have had a rethink.

The baccutum Quintisho is properly identified as Quintisho Cross. 'Not Quintisho' implies no relation to the true Quintisho and stability.

Jennifer

So you are saying that this "our" Quintisho is not a Quintisho at all, but a cross between C. annuum or C. chinense 'Quintisho' and what? Some unknown C. baccatum? I must say I see no C. annuum nor C. chinense features in my plant. So I suggest that, if not real Quintisho, it's still a full-blooded C. baccatum, no matter which cultivar name is attached. It has also very distinguishable flavor, unlike any other cultivar I have tasted. On the light of your investigations, I'm not sure if I should continue calling it "Quintisho", but we really need a nice name for such a nice variety, so let's hear some proposals.

Whatever may it be called, it's still a very nice and easily grown plant, with just beautiful green dotted flowers and tasty little pods.

I still think there may just be two different varieties carrying the same name, probably because of the more or less similar looking berries.

Well, because the baccatum 'Quintisho' seems to have originated in Finland I believe that you are entitled to give it an appropriate Finnish name.  :D

It's not the wild or naturalized chile you were hoping for but, until that happens, it sounds like a beautiful one to call your own.

Jennifer

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "Femmefatalii"Well, because the baccatum 'Quintisho' seems to have originated in Finland I believe that you are entitled to give it an appropriate Finnish name.  :D

It's not the wild or naturalized chile you were hoping for but, until that happens, it sounds like a beautiful one to call your own.

Jennifer

The baccatum Quintisho I have grown was from Reimer Seeds... So, can't probably claim the honor to Finland yet. ;) Still, knowing the way RS works, well... Who knows?

Lainaus käyttäjältä: "Femmefatalii"
John and I consulted with Allen Boatman who has done grow-outs of the baccutum Quintisho on this side of the ocean.

Do you know what was Allen Boatman's source of Quintisho seeds? Perhaps Reimer Seeds, could that be? Or vice versa, could RS have obtained their seeds from him?

OT: Googling for Allen Boatman gives interesting results. County jail inmates growing peppers and making sauces? Wow.

Allen received his seeds from Jukka. That's all I know. Reimers is a mystery to me and shall remain so.  :wink:

Here is Allen's site.

http://www.linuxis.net/gallery/allen

He and JohnF are the godfathers of seed for many of us in NA.

Jennifer