Hi everybody, I love chilli very much, but this is the first season I decided to grow some on my own. I chose these kinds: Habanero red
Bolivian Rainbow Chilli
Cherry Hot Chilli
Scotch Bonnet Yellow Chilli
Lemon Drop
Serrano
and two "nonames" which comes from Bulgaria. They were sow in december. And I want to make big bush from them. ;D if it will be possible..
Other kinds are in small RW cubes. They are 3 weeks old now. In some cubes there are some roots climbing now. Can I have some extra water in the box, where the cubes are? Because some roots changed their colour from white to brown. And I dont think, that this is good ???. So I poured out the extra water and keep the cubes moist.
The cubes are under fluorescent tubes and on window sill, when sunny weather. But today I saw a problem with their leaves. Some true leaves curled up. Dont know what caused this. Any idea?
I plan to give them in ebb&flood system, when they will be bigger and then transport them into greenhouse..
picture one: "nonames"
two: branching
three: RW cubes, 3 weeks old
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curled up leaves
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Most of the seedlings look fine, I wouldn't worry too much.
Do you have any air circulation for the seedling? A desktop fan would be great.
It seems they get nice amount of light!
well i have got PC fan which makes the circulation, I think that is enough. And yes, they get plenty of light, this week here is sunny weather, so I have them on window sill..
and what do you say about the roots?
I've germinated most of my chiles in RW-cubes for this season. When those roots grow out from the RW, I've repotted those seedlings.
well, I cant do that now. If I repott them-> it will take more space and I will not be able give them as much light as they need..
Looking good for a first season!
Only recommendation I would give is to throw that pc fan away and get a decent fan, you will need it later anyway. :)
Hi, I am here with little update and ask for advice..
I already built Aeroponic system with sprinklers for my seedlings. I have floramato & micro, but i am worried about start fertilizing now. ->
Last week I was 5 days in Italy and werent home, the seedlings werent in Aero. sys. yet, they were just in RW cubes. My roomate were very "thoughtful" and overflow them.. So, the roots which looked out from the cubes is darker, some of them rotted off.
Now they are second day in aeroponic system.. but I am worried, the roots arent good enough and I will start adding fertilizers-> the seedling will die.. :(
And second thing- I have now the pump set to 15 min ON and 15 min OFF, do you thing that that is good?
thanks..
If youre afraid to use fertilizer, because your young seedlings could die, then dont start yet ;)
OR, use just the teeny-weeniest drop of the fertilifer at first, then, if everything goes fine, use TWO of those teeny-weeny-tiny drops, and so on...
I strongly recommend starting carefully with the fertilifers. Also, a good fan is almost necessary, as it 1)removes heat 2)wiggles the plants, making them stonger 3)circulates the air, giving CO2 to your plants.
So I am here with little update: I found the problem.. it was light transmitting in aero box with roots. Now the roots are healthy, started grow very quickly and plants look very healthy and also started to grow.
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This is my older plant, but I think that first flowers starting to appear. But I think, that the plant is much too small and want to make it bigger.. What should I do? Cut the flowers? ???
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Cut them. I did it to today and tranplanted them to larger containers
This container is big enough for now. Roots still did not full it and fertilizers are supplied in water. OK, I will cut the starting flowers for some time and let the plant grow a little bit..
Hi I am here with some fotoupdate :) and some questions. I read somewhere on nett, that bolivian rainbow is just decorative and nobady can eat it? ??? So what? ??? And the second is problem with my plant in soil, something wrong os with its leafs. I guess pH problem but dont have pH meter for soil.
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I've had Bolivian Rainbows and they were delicious! I have no idea if it's because they are poisonous or what but at least I'm still alive!
Can't tell about your leaves but I'm also interested in reading about them. Mine look even a lot worse :( ??? :-[
All chilli's can be eaten!. Some taste good some don't
Yep, that's true.
I've also had Bolivian Rainbow and I wouldn't say those pods are delicious. They're quite hot, but they don't taste great at least when eaten fresh. Beautiful plant and those pods work well as a powder for example!
Thanks for advices about Rainbow. And the leaves.. yesterday I rinsed the soil with fresh water with adjusted pH and applied pesticide against red spider mite (hope it is the right name in english) and today the leaves look much better. So do not know what the problem was.. I will water for few days just with fresh water.. ;D but the problem seems to be solved..
Just small fotoupdate from today...
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Noname, some serious preflouwering starting to appear :D
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Looks fine ;)
Funny plant some leaves are round and some sharp.
Any idea what that could be?
you mean the "noname" plant? They are all sharp :D but the "round" ones have the ends twisted downstairs, so they look round...
Looks like your plants are growing nicely. Any idea what species noname could be?
I like the Lance ;). great work!.
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Saudijoe - huhtikuu 19, 2009, 22:20:47 ip
Looks like your plants are growing nicely. Any idea what species noname could be?
No I have no idea. The seeds are from dry chillis. I contacted the supplier and he only said, that they are from Bulgaria..
My wild guess is annuum, but let's wait for the flowers!
Hi, I am here with some small foto update.. :D
noname flowering
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9342/5535.jpg)
flowers
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5162/92109110.jpg)
nonames pods (from anther plant)
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1848/91165692.jpg)
ebb&flood
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2639/27237302.jpg)
Lemon Drop
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/496/65586768.jpg)
Lemons flower buds
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7211/77317921.jpg)
Serrano
(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4406/15983280.jpg)
Serranos flower buds
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5637/28411763.jpg)
Hot scherry
(http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/4975/80302756.jpg)
B. Rainbow
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/3008/56265661.jpg)
Habanero Red- fist tiny flower bud is forming.. do you think, taht plant is big enough?
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7691/85977762.jpg)
Scotch bonet Y. - the plant looks weirdly, maybe something wrong happened to her. ???
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8953/14542545.jpg)
and about the BR, I look forward to dark and almost black leaves :( but instead they are all pale green.. She is on direct sun several weeks now. There was some small sign of getting darker but that is all..
Noname is definitely annuum.
About the scotch bonnet... might be a little sensitive to a stronger solution that other plants like at that point.
Also, some vars are really sensitive to direct sun, so use of lace cloths is highly recommend for first weeks.
About BR... it might be the shock that caused the pale green leaves.. I don't recall how fast the leaves turned "black", but they might be mostly new leaves.
I think that the problem with bonet is not the sun, the plants are in GH about four weeks now and first week, they were covered. Maybe the stronger solution is the problem. First solution was 1ml + 1ml, and now they have 1,4ml + 1,4ml/l for five days now.
about BR, the new leaves are green too.. Funny thing is, that I had two BRs in aero, first had green and second dark leaves. The one with dark leaves I repotted into soil and gave to a friend (she was smaller and had worse roots than the green one and I hoped the green one turns into dark :D). I saw this given plant yesterday, she is much smaller than mine in ebb, but she has much more darker leaves than before. ;D
what would you do with my Habanero red, would you cut off the first flower bud? or keep him there..
Cut the first bud of definitely and nice to see your plants doing so well :)
I have already did it.. :D the plant is much small and I want a good yeald.. :)
Lainaus käyttäjältä: tadytomas - toukokuu 04, 2009, 14:46:09 ip
I have already did it.. :D the plant is much small and I want a good yeald.. :)
Are nice one :D
some foto update..
overview
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7189/p1050868j.jpg)
noname
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4233/p1050858.jpg)
Habanero white
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2310/p1050843.jpg)
habanero chocolate
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/277/p1050844.jpg)
habanero red
(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6330/p1050850.jpg)
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8403/p1050845.jpg)
scotch bonet
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8585/p1050847p.jpg)
hot scherry
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/7908/p1050851c.jpg)
serrano
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7964/p1050852k.jpg)
lemon drop
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5143/p1050854f.jpg)
BR
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9498/p1050856.jpg)
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2905/p1050857.jpg)
Your plants look very good and healthy!! there will be a little crowded on the EBB a bit later! :D
Looks like you have to move some plants away from there.. or spread them to sides.
well, EBB is very crowded already :o, the pics are 7 days old.. I will try to spread them to sides, I dont want to move some away. But for next season I will surely make a much bigger one.. :)
btw: how much they will grow when the flowering stage already started.. :o
Growth during the flowering period is completely up to you, you can adjust the growth by rationing the nutrients.
Chiles still need growing nutrients for flowering so they will grow in any case.
BTW. If that's your first season... then you really have THE green thumb!
Very nice indeed!
WOW
Nice plants you got there :D
What you think is White Habanero quite slow to grow?
My White Habaneros is growing slowly than others Habaneros.
to fatalii: so if i cut down on nutrients (matoµ, now they have got 1,4 + 1,4ml/l) they stop growing and they will still make flowers? ??? And second question.. now i have system set to 2 cycles a day? should I try one? thanks
to chillichutter: thanks, but I actually think, that my white hab. grows little faster than the other two (chocolate, red). White a chocolate are much younger than red. And the white is actually bigger than chocolate. :D
got somebody any idea, how to prevent falling of the flowers and the immature chilies? I noticed it today
Like the flowers on the last pic. Very pretty :)
first little chillies are forming right now.. will taky a few pics tomorrow..
Lovely to see those first pods appear makes all that hard work seem worth it ;)
Your've done real well for you first season, congratulations
Serrano's looking cool. So wild :)
well, I am here with some foto upload ;D it is now one big JUNGLE 8) and some first fruits are appearing.
noname
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2254/p1050870.jpg)
ebb
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9489/p1050871.jpg)
Scotch bonet Y
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5894/p1050872.jpg)
Habanero red
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/906/p1050873.jpg)
habanero white and chocolate
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/270/p1050874.jpg)
serrano and lemon drop
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1013/p1050878.jpg)
hot scherry
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4431/p1050876.jpg)
bolivian rainbow :D
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4420/p1050881.jpg)
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/1215/p1050882.jpg)
:o So many lovely pods on your plants and the Serrano and lemon drop are two of my favorite peppers,There will be some jealousy from me when i see the pod pics of those,You should be proud the plants are great :)
What a strange bolivian rainbow! I mean fruit shape, it's too long...
My bolivian rainbow looked like the same. The seeds was from reimer seeds.
I have got the seeds from readytogrow..
dont know, if the fruit looks wiered :D but I like them...
I wonder... Mine were looking like these
(http://www.kukkamaa.com/huonekasvit/Bolivian_rainbow2.jpg)
In Russia it is also known as Confetti :)
yeh. My colours were like yours Jah but fruit shape was longer like tadythomas
the colour should be changing during the maturation, right? Mine ware first light yellow, now they are purple.... at the end they should be red.. I think :D
There's at least one more stage: they become creamy after purple stage.
yeah. Thats true. But mine were never all the same color :P
This is on website, where I bought the seeds..
"hot chillies that start life creamy, turn purple, then orange and finally fire-engine red!"
Lainaus käyttäjältä: tadytomas - toukokuu 23, 2009, 14:19:51 ip
to fatalii: so if i cut down on nutrients (matoµ, now they have got 1,4 + 1,4ml/l) they stop growing and they will still make flowers? ??? And second question.. now i have system set to 2 cycles a day? should I try one? thanks
If you want them to flower, you should add more mato, for large plants I would add more micro too, like 2ml micro & 3ml mato... that's very generally speaking but you could try that, of course only if we're speaking about hydroponic plants again.
The number of cycles depends on how the conditions and plants.
For vars that need more moisture and nutrients, use more cycles, and the ones that need less, use less.
You can probably use at least 2.
Experiment! :)
Well, in the next solution, they will get more mato and micro too. I will go in 1,5 + 2ml, I am affraid of overfertilizing. When I jump from 1+1ml to 1,4+1,4ml my Lemon drop was very overfert.
about the cycles.. now we have cloudy weather and two cycles seem to be good for them. I will probably add ane more, when sunny weather. :)
I was little but bussy, because of exams, so i couldnt give here some foto. They grow very fast and the free space doesnt exist any more :D I have got a little bit problem with flower falling off, but hope, that it will be a good yeald. ;)
now fotoupdate 8)
All together
(http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/8023/124p.jpg)
(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/9674/123a.jpg)
What do you think? Should I cut some leaves maybe branches and make it less bushy?
Stems
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5978/122oel.jpg)
I look forward to make some bonchi... :D
Hot scherry
(http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/5331/112hib.jpg)
Serrano
(http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/3416/113zrs.jpg)
Rainbow
(http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/5333/120v.jpg)
Lemon Drop
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6238/121p.jpg)
Habanero red
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7056/116q.jpg)
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5042/117y.jpg)
Habanero white
(http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/4917/118i.jpg)
Scotch bonet
(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2001/115s.jpg)
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There definitely seems to be at least two different varieties sold as "Bolivian Rainbow". You have white flowers with a hint of purple, and the color of the fruit is creamy before turning purple.
The one I have has purple flowers, and the fruit are purple from the start. Also the fruit are shorter.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2557/3661605173_be7b4221e1_o.jpg)
I have got a question for you. it will maybe make you laugh, but I am not sure about it. How can I find out, that the fruits are ready to ripe? for example serrano or lemon drop.. ::)
And the second question is for those, who use hydroponics and fertilizers from GH. I know that bad taste is caused by to much nitrogen. The labels on fert say, that floramato has 1% nitrogen and floramicro 5%. What concentration of each fert in solution ml/l are appropriate for both- safe for eating and quite good taste?
thanks for advices..
tadytomas
Lainaus käyttäjältä: tadytomas - kesäkuu 29, 2009, 17:03:37 ip
I have got a question for you. it will maybe make you laugh, but I am not sure about it. How can I find out, that the fruits are ready to ripe? for example serrano or lemon drop.. ::)
And the second question is for those, who use hydroponics and fertilizers from GH. I know that bad taste is caused by to much nitrogen. The labels on fert say, that floramato has 1% nitrogen and floramicro 5%. What concentration of each fert in solution ml/l are appropriate for both- safe for eating and quite good taste?
thanks for advices..
tadytomas
Fruits are ripe when the color is right. You can eat chilis green as well but if you want seeds you should wait until they are ripe.
Some people use oly water a week before harvesting to better the taste. im no expert on the concentrations but ive read that you should give more N at early phases of the plant and then later more K. I use about half of the instructions myself. I have the 3 part flora set from GH.
well, you use about half of recomended instruction when you ripe fruits? or you mean it generally, that you use about half at all and finally just water.
When most of the pods are maturing and you aren't after continous harvesting, just add water in the end. Even tastier choice would be adding ripen (by GHE) to the solution for ripening. That way you will be able to get even more sweeter pods!
well, my problem is, that my Serrano, Lemon Drop, BR and Hot scherry are maturing right now (they have many fruits and another are growing) and very soon time to ripe will come.
On the other hand, in the same system :( I have 3 habaneros and one Scotch bonet. And their fruits started to grow few days ago..and time to ripe, will be much later..
My worry is.. I give no fert in the solution (or water with Rippen)- with intention to have a good taste of fruits (Serrano, Lemon Drop, BR and Hot scherry). It has to affect other plants (Habs, SB).. ???
to fatalii: did you ever try to eat fruits from the plants, which were on ferts (if yes, on which concentration)? And for how long (aprox.) have I add them just water (or water with rippen), till I can gather tasty pods?
Next year, I will be much smarter- I will reconstruct my "system" into few smaller flowerpot
thanks
tadytomas
your doing really well for a first time, keep it it up
Enjoy some new pics... :D
noname
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3932/p1050984e.jpg)
Lemon drop
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7507/p1050986.jpg)
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6435/p1050989.jpg)
Serrano
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7273/p1050987n.jpg)
Hot scherry
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4756/p1050988h.jpg)
Rainbow
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/390/p1050995e.jpg)
Habanero red
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6183/p1050991.jpg)
Habanero white
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/181/p1050998.jpg)
Habanero chocolate
(http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9634/p1050999.jpg)
Scotch bonet ;D
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/739/p1050990.jpg)
Absolutely wonderful, beautiful plants :)
:D fist ones..
(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9132/p1060004.jpg)
Great Looking Plants, congratulations
thanks ;)
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2891/145dw.jpg)
a many fruit wait to be rippen on habanero red and chocolate. On Lemon Drop more than half. Serrano started to flower again :D
Nothing beats your own harvest! Even after many many years it still feels so good. :)
Looks great!
For a first season... amazing!!
Keep on as you're doing!!
thanks, but it is mostly your credit, because of your growing instructions and advices you gave to me.
Hope I will sucesfully harvest the rest and make bonchis of them. That is my goal now :D
Thanks, I really appreciate that!
I'm very happy the hear I have been able to help you even a little. :)
For results like that you can't blame only me, you have some great green thumb there!
I'm sure you will be very successful with bonchis, I will be happy to help.
If someone finds bonchi stuff as satisfying as me, I'll be more than willing to help with any information!
To me, bonchi stuff was a real boost, it turned chile growing upside down in many ways... in good ways!
For example... plants that aren't on time were a waste before, now they can be very valuable starts for bonchi growing!
Please post your bonchi stuff when you can, I'll give anyt tips I can.
And don't worry about the plants looking horrible at first!
Actually, I plan to complete my harvest in about a week, then make solution strong on nitrogen and let the plants grow for two weeks or so. Maybe it helps to make thicker stems.
And I allready tried to make some "test bonchi" from my noname. It was pretty small plant, I cutted her down few weeks ago and today a gave her in smaller pot - 16x11x5 cm. No wiring done yet. I am still looking for idea how to arrange the soil around. I really like your bonchis, where some of the roots are on surface, will try to do it on next bonchi, because this had very tiny roots. The stem is thin, but I like her.
I just have one problem. She started to make flowerbuds. I am pinching them off and give her regularly water with a lot of nitrogen. Maybe the repotting helps.
Before - I havent got pics after harvets :-[
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3932/p1050984e.jpg)
and Now
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8325/p1010014m.jpg)
some foto:
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9847/146119x.jpg)
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1145/147hj.jpg)
to Fatalii: do you have some Idea/tip, how to stop making flower buds?
I'm not Fatalii but I have what to say :) Add some nitrogen man. You'll get vegetation.
Nitrogen is in every second watering and I am pinching flowerbuds each few days ???
What kind of nitrogen and how much per liter?
2ml/l- floramicro; 1ml/l- floramato
Floramicro contains nitrogen and potassium, and Floramato contains NPK. So you are adding a full fertilizer. Becides 3 ml/l is too low. You may use 5 g of dry fertilizer per litre. And the liquid one could be used even more.
You should get some ammonium nitrate or urea (not urine! :D) and use it twice or more at one teaspoon per litre of water.
Today I cutted down my plants in EBB, leaving just stems. I will keep them in hydroponic system till some foliage grows. Should I give them just fresh water or add in solution some ferts?
thanks for advices
Some ferts of course, but start with mild solution at first.
It would be good idea to cut some roots too.
Hi, I am here with some pics:
my latest yeald
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2457/149h.jpg)
and my bonchis attepmts
all
(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/158/150y.jpg)
Lemon drop
(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1889/154i.jpg)
Serrano
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1278/153mo.jpg)
Habanero red
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9561/158ms.jpg)
Habanero white
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4061/155gd.jpg)
Habanero chocolate
(http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1595/152u.jpg)
Scotch bonet
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4647/156h.jpg)
Hot scherry
(http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/7219/151k.jpg)
Rainbow
(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4623/157y.jpg)
Great!
Seems you joined the "bonchi club" too! ;)
Great stems!!
After you are sure they will survive, I would recommend to cut them even more!
Keep in mind that they will grow height anyways later.
Just a recommendation tho.
Also, When they seem to get past the cutting, start exposing the large roots and bring the plant "up".
That's actually something you can do before cutting the plant down, or when repotting it to a smaller pot.
Or later.. :)
They will look great!! Hope you have plenty of light for them.
Even if some leaves seem to die, don't worry, they will most likely grow new ones!
well I followed your recomendation and cut them more..
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4733/p1010013f.jpg)
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7402/p1010014a.jpg)
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2638/p1010015k.jpg)
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2047/p1010016g.jpg)
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/8693/p1010017q.jpg)
and next
(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6232/p1010023u.jpg)
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4115/p1010019f.jpg)
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5809/p1010022qj.jpg)
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8324/p1010020hw.jpg)
(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3535/p1010021e.jpg)
I choosed varieties for next year..
C. lanceolatum (C. lanceolatum)
C. rhomboideum (C. ciliatum)
Ulupica, Large (C. cardenasii var. pendulum)
Early Jalapeno
Chinese chilli pot
any experiences with them? thanks