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Otsikko: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: Fatalii - helmikuu 18, 2009, 10:17:24 ap
I have started researching and photographing wild chiles with microscope, and it's really interesting!
I might add more info about this process to photography section later.

Here's a shot of an C. galapagoense "hair" on a leaf.
(http://fatalii.net/pics/galapagoense_hair.jpg)

To  show what kind of hair it is, check this pic, it's a hair from a tiny leaf.
(http://fatalii.net/chile/kuvat/galapag2.jpg)
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: wille - helmikuu 18, 2009, 10:32:49 ap
Really cool pics! How much closer to chiles can you get...  ;)
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: timppa - helmikuu 18, 2009, 10:57:15 ap
Lainaus käyttäjältä: wille - helmikuu 18, 2009, 10:32:49 ap
Really cool pics! How much closer to chiles can you get...  ;)


Don't try to get closer to chiles... Bring chiles closer to you! :) The wise words of old chile guru ;)

Any way, these are cool pics indeed! Seems like there is life inside the hair, like there is some liquid.
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: Fatalii - helmikuu 18, 2009, 11:20:07 ap
Actually it's possible to get much closer... but even the smallest vibration at these magnifications is a real pain in the ass... practically I need to be elsewhere and shoot the pics with radio controller... Even a desktop computer turned on in a same room causes too much vibration!

It's a challange but I mostly love challenges.
Needs a lot of patience and time.
More to come soon... Perhaps even a micrography picture update! :)

Oh and, here's the equipment in case someone is interested to see it:
(http://fatalii.net/micrography.jpg)
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: timppa - helmikuu 18, 2009, 20:12:57 ip
Is there some purpose of those hairs in plants? Is it possible that plant stays more stable with hair in sense of temperature like animals? If you think about some "original/natural" pubescens or some other hairy chiles, they come from high mountain area where temp can drop suddenly. Or that bugs etc. stay away, since it's harder to get in to the more green parts of the plant? I mean that there must be some purpose... reason might be also that hairy plant is more attractive and beautiful? Same reason how flowers try to stay ride of the evolution..?
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: Fatalii - helmikuu 18, 2009, 22:20:13 ip
Yeah, more common with chiles that live in colder areas.
But it's not just to fight the coldness I think.

And for aphids for example hairy plants are harder to walk on, Like rocotos and many wild chiles.

The interesting thing is the fragrance, for example on C. galapagoense.
Perhaps it's that "liquid" inside the hairs that release the nice perfumish smell when the plant is touched... I should do some experiments and check with microscope how they break.

Really interesting stuff!
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: lee - maaliskuu 14, 2009, 22:57:52 ip
Great, shoot some Rhom hairs  :). Would love to see how that looks like

Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: Fatalii - maaliskuu 15, 2009, 12:03:10 ip
Lee, I definitely will when I have some time, I will update it to rhomb article! :)
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: Watt - maaliskuu 15, 2009, 12:22:00 ip
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Fatalii - helmikuu 18, 2009, 11:20:07 ap
Actually it's possible to get much closer... but even the smallest vibration at these magnifications is a real pain in the ass... practically I need to be elsewhere and shoot the pics with radio controller... Even a desktop computer turned on in a same room causes too much vibration!

It's a challange but I mostly love challenges.
Needs a lot of patience and time.
More to come soon... Perhaps even a micrography picture update! :)

Oh and, here's the equipment in case someone is interested to see it:
http://fatalii.net/micrography.jpg



Nice equipment, and very cool pictures! Maybe you should cast huge concrete cube over rubber carpet to eliminate vibration ;) Then your table is steady!
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: lee - maaliskuu 25, 2009, 23:34:18 ip
Well. I see u have installed that equipment on a very instable desk. That's where part of the vibration is coming from. The other problem is the instability of the camera with the long lens attached to the scope
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: Fatalii - maaliskuu 26, 2009, 01:15:05 ap
True, but it's always a problem with a magnifications like that... you can do everyting to prevent all vibration and it still vibrates like a mad vibrator.. even on a greenhouse concrete or a rock!

That's problem even when using close-up lens with bellows and high magnification... and when you go to microscopy... even a tiny breeze shakes eveything, even it all feels VERY firm.

But, life would be boring without any challenges! :)
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: lee - maaliskuu 26, 2009, 21:24:51 ip
Lainaus käyttäjältä: Fatalii - maaliskuu 26, 2009, 01:15:05 ap
True, but it's always a problem with a magnifications like that... you can do everyting to prevent all vibration and it still vibrates like a mad vibrator.. even on a greenhouse concrete or a rock!

That's problem even when using close-up lens with bellows and high magnification... and when you go to microscopy... even a tiny breeze shakes eveything, even it all feels VERY firm.

But, life would be boring without any challenges! :)



A phrase that I know just popped up.




" A man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything"'

Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: Fatalii - maaliskuu 27, 2009, 01:11:26 ap
Exactly! :)

To succeed with one thing you need to make 9 mistakes at first! :)
Otsikko: Vs: C. galapagoense hair
Kirjoitti: lee - maaliskuu 29, 2009, 00:00:00 ap
 ;)