Different view of the C. eximium. My main camera fell on the tile floor in the kitchen and had to be sent in for repairs so I'm stuggling with these pictures--using a reversed lens and now a macro converter.

Hi Harry

CAP 503 C. eximium taken yesterday. The flower seems quite different to me.



My records show I sent you 3 varieties of C. cardenasii but don't say which. If It does not have a prefix it is the one I received from Graeme Castelton years ago simply as "Cardenasii". Here is a link that shows  those I have grown

http://www.virtualpepper.org/classifications.php?id=13&forum_lang=english

Hmm--is a baccatum. None of those look right. Can't explain your results-hard to imagine that as result of a simple cross. Should look like this

Thanks for the interesting material. Dr. Bosland considers C. eximium and C. cardenasii to be part of the 'pubescens complex' and mentions the fact that there is variability in self compatibility with the pubescens. I have a friend who loves and  has grown many of them and he concurs though he has only found two varieties so far that are self incompatible.

I started some experiments on the wild peppers a few winters ago but acquired a mite infestation and had to dispose of all the plants. I did obtain a fruit on a Ulupica which I pollintated with C. pubescens ( ala Rocopica) but only obtained one seed and have not grown it out. Wishing I had a green house rather than a kitchen.

john

I am hesitant to debate you on this issue, not being a biologist. All of my references list them as separate species ( I have not seen the work you cite). Bosland and Votava in " Peppers: Vegetable ans Spice Capsicums" indicate that C. cardenasii is self- incompatible while C. eximium is self-compatible. This seems to be so my experience and if true would give you your distinguishing characteristic.

This winter I plan to grow a selection of the wild species inside and do some experimenting.

I believe C. eximium and C. cardenasii are separate species.

Blooming but, again, not forming pods. I am beginning to wonder if this is really C. cardenasii

It is now producing fruit--very un-pepper like fruit

The other Cobincho--MDESH never did produce any fruit and stopped flowering. It has now begun to flower again producing tiny 1/4" flowers. The plant has continued to grow and is now quite wide.

Tasted today-extremely hot but the heat fades. No special flavor but a hint of bitter. Only two seeds in each of two ripe pods.

Update--now about 13" high and 23" wide--has produced a couple more flowers but no fruit. Am growing as all the others for now.

Haven't tasted yet--that's the first ripe one.

Cobincho-NMDUC is now producing pods--the other has not

Thanks for the link. this one looks pretty close

http://www.bgard.science.ru.nl/images/47394362.jpg

Hey, Gekko

Here is a picture of one of the plants. Note the small size of the flowers.

Don't think is actually an eggplant--based on Hudson's pic and description of of fruit but some kind of solanum--simialr to a couple including red ruffled eggplant except flowers are quite small.

http://www.pbase.com/chiles400/solanaceae

Flower looks like a solanum rather than a pepper

I'm no computer expert--pictures work fine for me with Mozilla, IE, and AOL.

you may post the pictures--I won't be able to read it correct?  :(

It opened!