Hello!

[Sauli Särkkä]

Wilkommen in unsere Forum, Jochen. Entschuldigen, weil mein Deutsch nicht so gut ist, aber man muss unternehmen..

Wild species are a big deal to us, especially with the Finnish Chili Association, that is being founded as we speak. If all goes well, the beuraucratic system will push out the final verdict at the end of the year and we'll be set to take on members from around the world!

One of our goals is to preserve wild chili species and to produce a good, healthy amount of seeds of each wild variety to ensure the safety of the species here in Finland, as well as abroad.

Once we're all set up, I welcome you to join our association as one of our first foreign members!


Grüss,

-Sale

[thp]

Welcome! Be sure to stand by for the new association.  

[gine]

Wilkommen in unsere Forum, Jochen. Entschuldigen, weil mein Deutsch nicht so gut ist, aber man muss unternehmen..

Grüss,

-Sale

Nice!

[gine]

Hi,

can you tell me where about i can get seeds from wild species? are there any sites on the net?

i whould be interested at c. galapagoense and c. eximium.

Greets

[Aji Inferno]

Hi,

can you tell me where about i can get seeds from wild species? are there any sites on the net?

i whould be interested at c. galapagoense and c. eximium.

Greets

It is, unfortunately, even now still very difficult to find seeds of most wild capsicums. Reimer Seeds sells some varieties, mainly wild annuums and baccatums, but the quality of their seeds hasn't been absolutely stellar in the past... Some varieties are also misnamed.

The best source is probably www.fatalii.net. Some people in this community & forum may also be willing to trade some seeds. The problem with wild varieties is just that many of the rarest ones don't produce easily many - or even any - seeds. So, you can't sell or give those away...

Galapagoense is virtually impossible to find, although many people would like to grow it. Eximium is also very rare, but just a bit more common. Still, please hang around here in this forum, because our newly founded Chili Association has a goal of collecting especially rare wild capsicum seeds in order to help to preserve these species. Some people here grow these plants, and when the seeds (hopefully) become available, I'm sure there will be a chance for you and others to receive some, too.

Here's a list of wild capsicums our Finnish Chili Association plans to grow, collect and increase during 2007:
- C.annuum var. glabriusculum (several varieties)
- C.annuum var. frutescens
- C.chacoense (many)
- C.galapagoense
- C.baccatum var. baccatum (several)
- C.baccatum var. umbilicatum
- C.baccatum var. praetermissum (several)
- C.tovari (2 varieties)
- C.eximium (several)
- C.eximium (semi-wild form)
- C.flexuosum (2 varieties)
- C.lanceolatum
- C.rhomboideum

As said, there are some plants of most of the before mentioned species growing among our community, but very few seeds. That situation needs to change, and we're therefore forming a seed bank for the Association.

So, things will get better and very interesting soon, I trust!

In the meantime, please check www.fatalii.net - Fatalii might be able to help you with some good wild varieties. Other people here might also have spare seeds.

[cmpman1974]

Very interesting project to undertake.  I hope it goes well as it is extremely difficult to find most of the varieties you are growing.  It would be great to open these up to avid chile growers around the world.  I enjoy growing the wild varieties mainly due to the unique growth habits of the plants, not for culinary use.

C. Chaceoense sure does look pretty when filled with pods ripening at all different stages!  C. Praetermissum is very neat too.  

Chris

[Aji Inferno]

Very interesting project to undertake.  I hope it goes well as it is extremely difficult to find most of the varieties you are growing.  It would be great to open these up to avid chile growers around the world.  I enjoy growing the wild varieties mainly due to the unique growth habits of the plants, not for culinary use.

C. Chaceoense sure does look pretty when filled with pods ripening at all different stages!  C. Praetermissum is very neat too.  

Chris

Many of those wild ones are interesting to watch, indeed. Some may well prove to be beneficial as well; for example, c.flexuosum looks very promising for further experiments & cultivation...

By the way, Inferno's totally re-written wild capsicum section (100% in English) is now almost ready, and will (for the first time ever anywhere, I think) describe all known wild capsicum species with the latest research findings from Brazil etc.

Our next challenge will be to somehow get access to the really exotic species like capsicum hunzikerianum! Many of those plants are close to extinct, so a global home growing project might even save those plants. For example, alone here in Finland several people grow ultra-rare c.galapagoense. That's nature preservation in action - not just a hobby. And that's another reason why chile growing rocks.

[PK]

Many of those plants are close to extinct, so a global home growing project might even save those plants. For example, alone here in Finland several people grow ultra-rare c.galapagoense. That's nature preservation in action - not just a hobby. And that's another reason why chile growing rocks. :)

To be honest, I really don´t think home growing has significant role in ex situ conservation ;)

By the way, Inferno's totally re-written wild capsicum section (100% in English) is now almost ready, and will (for the first time ever anywhere, I think) describe all known wild capsicum species with the latest research findings from Brazil etc.

Now that´s something \o/

[tknummelin]

To be honest, I really don´t think home growing has significant role in ex situ conservation

You think? If there are hundreds of people growing that formerly-near-extinct variety, how can that not have an effect? Succeeded growing process produces seeds, though.

[PK]

First of all, how do you ensure the genetic purity? Even if we assume (C.galapagoense) (not a variety, but a species) doesn´t hybridize under no circumstances, what are the chances that some institute would turn to Average Joe?

[Aji Inferno]

First of all, how do you ensure the genetic purity? Even if we assume (C.galapagoense) (not a variety, but a species) doesn´t hybridize under no circumstances, what are the chances that some institute would turn to Average Joe?

Well, we can only do so much - and try. After all, isn't it better to have healthy galapagoenses growing in many places, than to perhaps have some seeds (if any) stored and forgotten in some research facility? At least, we can learn about those plants that way, and keep the line alive.

Without home growing we wouldn't probably know now that e.g. c.flexuosum is highly frost resistant. That feature might prove to be valuable in the future. What's important is not to misuse these plants for just "fun" purposes - that way we might cause just damage...

[gine]

Hi,

can you tell me where about i can get seeds from wild species? are there any sites on the net?

i whould be interested at c. galapagoense and c. eximium.

Greets

It is, unfortunately, even now still very difficult to find seeds of most wild capsicums. Reimer Seeds sells some varieties, mainly wild annuums and baccatums, but the quality of their seeds hasn't been absolutely stellar in the past... Some varieties are also misnamed.

The best source is probably www.fatalii.net. Some people in this community & forum may also be willing to trade some seeds. The problem with wild varieties is just that many of the rarest ones don't produce easily many - or even any - seeds. So, you can't sell or give those away...

Galapagoense is virtually impossible to find, although many people would like to grow it. Eximium is also very rare, but just a bit more common. Still, please hang around here in this forum, because our newly founded Chili Association has a goal of collecting especially rare wild capsicum seeds in order to help to preserve these species. Some people here grow these plants, and when the seeds (hopefully) become available, I'm sure there will be a chance for you and others to receive some, too.

Here's a list of wild capsicums our Finnish Chili Association plans to grow, collect and increase during 2007:
- C.annuum var. glabriusculum (several varieties)
- C.annuum var. frutescens
- C.chacoense (many)
- C.galapagoense
- C.baccatum var. baccatum (several)
- C.baccatum var. umbilicatum
- C.baccatum var. praetermissum (several)
- C.tovari (2 varieties)
- C.eximium (several)
- C.eximium (semi-wild form)
- C.flexuosum (2 varieties)
- C.lanceolatum
- C.rhomboideum

As said, there are some plants of most of the before mentioned species growing among our community, but very few seeds. That situation needs to change, and we're therefore forming a seed bank for the Association.

So, things will get better and very interesting soon, I trust!

In the meantime, please check www.fatalii.net - Fatalii might be able to help you with some good wild varieties. Other people here might also have spare seeds.

Hi,

many thanks for the response and the tips. Will turn me sometimes to Fatalii.

With the Finnish Chili Association is very interesting. Unfortunately, mine is not english so well, however, would please me if it is to be joined so far to this association.

Greetings
Jochen